Attendees
- John P
- Neal
- JeffO
- Dave
- Mei Lin Overview

Great to have Neal on the call again and a good part of the meeting was centered on further exploring the intersection of identity theft and natural calamities, noting that there are now 2,000 FBI cases in the wine country of stolen identity that exploits the Equifax breach specifi- cally.
Jeff introduced the challenge we have of getting people out of the at- titude of being resigned to the fact that there is information has been stolen and there is nothing they can do to making people aware.
Comparisons drawn to the concept of preventative versus curative medicine.
Mei Lin referenced work by Sean Flynn - see later.
We also has a short discussion around Technological solutions that could be brought to bear - see later.
Neal - Reiterating
- there really is no sharing of information
- people who volunteer don’t think about implications of protecting
the information they are collecting
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* encryption in the mix
* now block chain
- connections between identity theft and natural calamities
- people centered identity is key
- public has apathy, lack of trust and don’t give a damn
- criminals were specifically using data from Equifax
Jeff
- Real-IT - reality
- tech convenience against ROI
- cost is dollars and cents
- data - which is priceless - is often the goal
Following up on Neal
- Great to hear from Neal
- Intersect of Identity Theft and Lost Identity - need to make people
more aware
- In the space of people
* People who come in as volunteer community
* People come in as good actors
* bit maybe don’t recognize the exposures they unwittingly intro- duce into the process
- 200 years ago people didn’t understand bacteria and the solution was amputation - we now know better
Mei Lin
- Impact Network Group Introductions Done * Neal
* John
- IIW - applauds idea for involving ourselves
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- health analogy - liked
* preventive v curative
- 85% of health emerge form social determinants
- Singapore 5% of GDP spent on health
* they recognize that a ‘stitch in time saves nine’
- government is spending money on clinical intervention
Mei Lin - The Work Of Sean Flynn
Singapore is now integrating social services with medical services - sharing the following links for those interested.
Powerpoint
YouTube Presentation
Affordable Excellence - The Healthcare Story (PDF)
Dave
- Security
- Protect peoples privacy only discussion is only about the obvious
stuff
- focus on prevention
- indirect channels of disclosure
- useful but not cosmetic
Technology Solutions
Technology solutions were raised once more - specifically Katherine and Liwen from Wault - while not on the call - have strong feelings that Wault can solve the problem at hand. We wouldn’t disagree, but ....
The general consensus of the team assembled was that we still really do not have a clear view of what problem we are trying to solve and are reticent to put the cart before the horse.
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Also reminding us all that we have already identified 4 different tech- nologies/companies that are capable of solving some aspect of the problem - if not all.
- Wault
- Digi.Me
- Pillar Project and Wallet
- Yoti
More to come on this topic as we move forward.
Highlighted Comments
- “It is not identity destruction - - it is identity disruption”
- “I am here to listen and learn”
- “We need to establish ‘What Is The Question’”
Actions and Conclusions
- We will hold call next week - calendar invite already sent.
- JP follow up with Doc and Joyce Searls re IIW presence
- ML shared Singapore Healthcare links and docs from Sean Flynn - repeated below
- JP to post these minutes to Debate Graph
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