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Information theoretic explanation
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A number of physicists and philosophers have claimed that remembering - by humans or computers - can only occur in a rising-entropy environment. Such claims generally draw on the requirements for persisting and utilizing information. Two approaches to formally demonstrating this link are addressed.
In addition a number of physicists and philosophers have simply asserted that the psychological (memory) arrow must align with the thermodynamic arrow - see citations below from Sean Carroll and J.J.C. Smart.
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The Arrow of Time »
The Arrow of Time
The Arrow of Time ☜A map exploring some issues concerning the nature of time that lie at the boundary of physics and philosophy. The map follows up a talk to the Blackheath Philosophy Forum on 2 April 2011 by Huw Price, Professor of Philosophy and director of the Center for Time at Sydney University.☜F1CEB7
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The experience of time »
The experience of time
The experience of time☜This branch of the map considers the phenomenology of time - the various ways in which time presents itself directly to our consciousness. Why do we think time has the features indicated by the passage view? The answers will hopefully enable us to connect the phenomenological to the physical.☜FFB597
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Passage view components »
Passage view components
Passage view components☜The passage view refers to three aspects of how we perceive time - that it flows, has a direction and that there is a distinguished present moment - and claims that each corresponds to a feature of the real world. These matters are considered in this part of the map.☜FFB597
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Flow and direction of time? »
Flow and direction of time?
Flow and direction of time?☜What underlies our sense that time flows - that there is a continuous process where the future is realized in the present and then recedes into the past? Are we directly observing a feature of the real world through the private door of consciousness (Eddington) or is something else going on?☜FFB597
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Memory accretion hypothesis »
Memory accretion hypothesis
Memory accretion hypothesis ☜At all times we are aware of a stock of memories of an ordered succession of events, each with a rough or precise time-stamp. We are also aware that the stock is being constantly added to - a process of accretion. This gives rise to the sense of time flowing in the direction that memories are added.☜59C6EF
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Direction is that of memory accretion »
Direction is that of memory accretion
Direction is that of memory accretion☜By convention, we identify the forward direction of the psychological arrow of time is with the direction in which our stock of memories grows.☜9FDEF6
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Why aligned with thermodynamic arrow? »
Why aligned with thermodynamic arrow?
Why aligned with thermodynamic arrow?☜If memory accretion accounts for the psychological arrow of time, why are the psychological and thermodynamic arrows aligned. We dont recall instances of eggs unscrambling or shattered glass spontaneously re-assembling. Why is this so?☜FFB597
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Information theoretic explanation
Information theoretic explanation☜A number of physicists and philosophers have claimed that remembering - by humans or computers - can only occur in a rising-entropy environment. Such claims generally draw on the requirements for persisting and utilizing information. Two approaches to formally demonstrating this link are addressed.☜59C6EF
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Argument from computation »
Argument from computation
Argument from computation☜Memory formation in a computer can only occur within an environment where entropy is increasing AND the process of memory formation in human brains is relevantly similar to that in a computer.☜98CE71
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Quantum argument »
Quantum argument
Quantum argument☜In the cited article Maccone mounts an argument grounded in quantum theory that phenomena in which entropy decreases will not leave any information of their having happened, so that even if they do happen they will never be remembered. This argument does not make use of a computer analogy.☜98CE71
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Causality, not entropy »
Causality, not entropy
Causality, not entropy☜Some philosophers argue that there is too much emphasis on entropy in efforts to find a physical correlate for the psychological arrow of time. Earman (see citation) argues the leaving of traces of past events may have nothing to do with entropy but rather to causal asymmetry.☜EF597B
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Refrigerator objection »
Refrigerator objection
Refrigerator objection☜There is no evidence that the psychological arrow, indicated by the direction of remembering, reverses when an observer is placed in a decreasing-entropy environment. We dont start remembering the future when sitting in a refrigerator - or more prosaically - an air-conditioned room.☜EF597B
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Why can't we remember the future? (article excerpt)
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Sean M. Carroll - Theoretical physicist, California Institute of Technology
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9:44 AM 24 June 2011 GMT
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Entropy gradient explains agency
The existence of a low entropy past explains why the future is mutable and the past is not.
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http://eands.caltech.edu/articles/LXXIII1/2010_Winter_Carroll.pdf
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"So the arrow of time isn’t just about simple mechanical processes; it’s a necessary feature of the existence of life itself. But it’s also responsible for a deep feature of what it means to be a conscious person: the fact that we remember the past, but not the future. According to the fundamental laws of physics, the past and future are treated on an equal footing; but when it comes to how we perceive the world, they couldn’t be more different. We carry in our heads representations of the past, in the form of memories. Concerning the future, we can make predictions, but those predictions have nowhere near the reliability of our memories of the past.
Ultimately, the reason we can form a reliable memory of the past is that the entropy was lower then.
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Time (article in Encyclopedia of Philosophy, MacMillan 1967)
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Smart, JJC
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4:10 AM 25 August 2011 GMT
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Causality, not entropy
Some philosophers argue that there is too much emphasis on entropy in efforts to find a physical correlate for the psychological arrow of time. Earman (see citation) argues the leaving of traces of past events may have nothing to do with entropy but rather to causal asymmetry.
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http://www.jstor.org/pss/187375
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The formation of a trace is the formation of a subsystem of temporarily lower entropy than that of its surroundings... A footprint in the sand is a temporarily highly ordered state of the sand; this orderliness is brought about at the expense of an increased disorderliness (metabolic depletion) of the pedestrian who made it... On investigation it will be seen that all sorts of traces, whether footprints in the sand, photographs, fossil bones, or the like can be understood as traces in this sense. Indeed, so are written records.
The close connection between information and entropy is brought out in modern information theory, the mathematics of which is much the same as that of statistical mechanics.
Cited in Earman article on pp 41-2
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