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The Internalisation Reply
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Suppose the man in the Room memorizes the rule book and all the symbols and does the matching in his head not on paper. He incorporates the entire Room system, but still doesn't understand Chinese. So the whole system doesn't understand Chinese.
John Searle 1980a, 1980b & 1990b.
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Artificial Intelligence »
Artificial Intelligence
Artificial Intelligence☜A collaboratively editable version of Robert Horns brilliant and pioneering debate map Can Computers Think?—exploring 50 years of philosophical argument about the possibility of computer thought.☜F1CEB7
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Can computers think? [1] »
Can computers think? [1]
Can computers think? [1]☜Can a computational system possess all important elements of human thinking or understanding? ☜FFB597
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Yes: physical symbol systems can think [3] »
Yes: physical symbol systems can think [3]
Yes: physical symbol systems can think [3]☜Thinking is a rule governed manipulation of symbolic representational structures. In humans, symbol systems are instantiated in the brain, but the same symbol systems can also be instantiated in a computer. ☜59C6EF
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The Chinese Room Argument [4] »
The Chinese Room Argument [4]
The Chinese Room Argument [4]☜Instantiation of a formal program isnt enough to produce semantic understanding or intentionality. A man who doesnt understand Chinese, can answer written Chinese questions using an English rulebook telling him how to manipulate Chinese symbols.☜EF597B
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The Systems Reply »
The Systems Reply
The Systems Reply☜We can consider the person in the room as part of a total system that includes the rule book, scratch paper, and data banks of Chinese symbols. The whole system, not only the person should be regarded as understanding Chinese.☜EF597B
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The Internalisation Reply
The Internalisation Reply☜Suppose the man in the Room memorizes the rule book and all the symbols and does the matching in his head not on paper. He incorporates the entire Room system, but still doesnt understand Chinese. So the whole system doesnt understand Chinese.☜EF597B
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A dilemma about cognition and intentionality »
A dilemma about cognition and intentionality
A dilemma about cognition and intentionality☜The internalization reply relies on the notion that cognition and intentionallity are necessarily connected. But this leads to the dilemma described in the Expanded text.☜EF597B
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Man understands Chinese but can't translate to English »
Man understands Chinese but can't translate to English
Man understands Chinese but can't translate to English☜Once the man has internalized the system, he then speaks Chinese, but his English- and Chinese- speaking subsystems cant communicate. He understands both English and Chinese but cant translate between them.☜EF597B
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Phenomenology not required »
Phenomenology not required
Phenomenology not required☜Any intuitions about what goes in the internalizing mans mind, arent relevant to a cognitive theory of understanding—which is only responsible for explaining competence (having all the right rules) and performance (applying the rules in context).☜EF597B
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The "part-of" principle is fallacious »
The "part-of" principle is fallacious
The "part-of" principle is fallacious☜The internalization reply rest on a fallacious part-of principle, whereby, if you cant do X, no part of you can do X. Just because the man who has internalized the Chinese Room cant speak Chinese, it does not follow that no part of him can speak ☜EF597B
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The levels of conscious involvement dilemma »
The levels of conscious involvement dilemma
The levels of conscious involvement dilemma☜Once the man internalizes the system, the Chinese Room argument fails regardless of what level of involvement we imagine the man to have with it.☜EF597B
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The Subsystem understands »
The Subsystem understands
The Subsystem understands☜The man who has internalised the room may not understand Chinese, but he contains an information processing subsystem does understand Chinese.☜EF597B
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Understanding is a result of speed and complexity »
Understanding is a result of speed and complexity
Understanding is a result of speed and complexity☜No human can manipulate symbols fast / accurately enough to simulate real time Chinese translation; or can memorize the Chinese symbols as the Reply suggests. Its the very speed and complexity of computers that permits humanlike thinking to occur.☜EF597B
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We lack intuitions about the internalizing man »
We lack intuitions about the internalizing man
We lack intuitions about the internalizing man☜Once the man in the Room internalizes the room we no longer have adequately clear intuitions about whats going on inside his head—due to the complexity of the process of internalizing the room–to determine whether or not he understands Chinese.☜EF597B
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John Searle »
John Searle
John Searle☜Arguments advanced by John Searle.☜FFFACD
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