| 2013.02.10 Thema1 #250228 Skype session record |
Session Record [11:32:45 AM] Jack Park: AH: saturation; after 20 interviews, not hearing anything new -- a maximum point. When saturation, still did 30% more to double check saturation assumption. If something new, a new marker point to keep interviewing. [11:33:05 AM] Jack Park: JP: that's a topic map problem: merging duplicate results. [11:34:17 AM] Jack Park: AH: get computer to break down text to basic aspects of meaning, and map relations among them; connect all of that to related text. In theory, thesis was doing that. Need to scale that. [11:35:58 AM] Jack Park: AH: iin theory, knowledge made up of experience which is made of basic elements -- Buddhism; vastly more sophisticated than what we have in a Western thinking; fundamental components: subject, object, predicate -- create meaning out of units of experience, then symbolize that meaning; from meaning to symbolic expression. [11:36:46 AM] Jack Park: AH: computer dealing with symbolized language, not units of experience. [11:38:19 AM] Jack Park: AH: how to find all the units of meaning in symbolized form -> complete mapping of meanings in that symbolized experience; it's doable. Have enough of the philosophy and technology to get started. Sounds like IBM took a rough cut at it. [11:41:17 AM] Jack Park: AH: need to get more sophisticated than just symbol and probability space. Problem is that not all meaning has high level of occurrence, but can still be significant; just doing stats, just going to get most common expressions, not necessarily most significant -- different between qual and quant research; some meanings are highly qualitative, occur infrequently but still important -- thesis coding process attempts to reveal that. Get different results. [11:53:05 AM] Jack Park: AH: semiotician has models of how action occurs (her thesis) role players do actions; thesis is about how we generate actions; must understand action as it is represented - symbolized in language. aldeus gramus [11:54:24 AM] Jack Park: AH: glossary in thesis [11:57:07 AM] Jack Park: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algirdas_Julien_Greimas [12:01:38 PM] Jack Park: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotic_square [12:02:59 PM] Jack Park: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0253351693/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used [12:03:27 PM] Jack Park: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0810114275/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used [12:04:58 PM] Jack Park: semiotic square, thesis p 129 [12:25:51 PM] Jack Park: AH: if we can find an area of meaning that has been symbolized to compare datasets, could be very interesting. Would start to tell us about what a human being does and what the probabilistic models are doing. [12:27:58 PM] Jack Park: AH: train on body A marked text; test on body B (marked) without using the marks, then compare how it did against the marks. [12:43:39 PM] Jack Park: http://knowledgegardens.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/thoughts-after-playing-foresight-engine-games/ [12:44:42 PM] Jack Park: Jane McGonigal -- Reality is Broken [12:51:29 PM] Jack Park: Badges for outlier game moves; in line with AH's path not frequently taken; [12:51:45 PM] Jack Park: AH: is it random, is it thoughtful? [12:53:05 PM] Jack Park: AH: nature of relationship between novel idea and domain [12:59:59 PM] Jack Park: http://cohere.open.ac.uk/ [1:07:30 PM] Jack Park: http://journals.isss.org/index.php/proceedings52nd/article/viewFile/1046/352 [1:08:38 PM] Jack Park: http://www.nexial.org/Life/complexity_v5.pdf [1:08:57 PM] Jack Park: http://www.nexial.org/Life/Kineman_Complexity_ISSS_WILL_2003b.pdf [1:10:08 PM] Jack Park: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1461412684/ref=asc_df_14614126842384735?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt618513-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=1461412684 [1:11:34 PM] Jack Park: http://www.anteinstitute.org/ [1:13:17 PM] Jack Park: http://www.anticipation.info/ [1:14:32 PM] Jack Park: AH: need to build Wheel of Karma into SolrDrWatson [1:18:25 PM] Dr Alexandra Hart: AH: need to make this Wheel of Karma self aware of it's intentions! WHat would this do? Create and enligtened being? WHat are the ethics heres [1:19:44 PM] Dr Alexandra Hart: Anticipatory systems are systems with intentions. The wheel of karma is a model for psychological causality and it shows that maintains an organisms state and pathway is its intentions. [1:21:29 PM] Jack Park: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Rashevsky [1:29:08 PM] Jack Park: AH: make wheel of karma aware of its intentions
[1:46:49 PM] Jack Park: http://debategraph.org/JA |