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AH: assume relations between concepts and signs, but that they were not necessarily the obvious ones; empirically investigate those relations; which signs most significant, what they really refer to in terms of concepts and things.
AH: by looking at all relns between signs, we can draw conclusions, get to deeper experiences, substrates from which concepts and signs emerging
getting from signs to concepts and relationships-automating that
AH: what's happening below the sign; understandf process of generating meaning from experience; look at reln between signs capture meaning of sign.
AH: it's the signs at the square corners
page 120 in thesis
Textual invariants: signs
Saturation: when you have all the meanings
Felt sense: reflect on moment of experience; before u produce interpretation, when just dealing with raw experience itself, that's felt sense
Invariant: doesn't change
Assume stability in relationship between sign and object; phenomenal invariant: stable, happens many times experience -> felt sense; prior to that felt sense, meaning being created.
Meaning making process connects felt sense to signs and symbols
What SS must do is automate contents of chapter 6
Computer goes backward from language to felt sense
Then can interpret what's going on
Chapter 12 important
Quote on 122; felt sense is so intricate and detailed, at any point, we create meaning with only a fraction of felt sense; only that fraction of felt sense gets symbolized in that instance of meaning making.
That's where Gendlin moved psychoanalysis away from Freud
That makes research difficult
Must remain aware dealing with under-defined domain; new data, new interpretations from felt sense domain will pop up at any time
Domain so complex that must rely on basic concepts: either no relationship or some relationship, and strength
Need to work kind of relationship into coding: fundamental types and strength -- all other structures in graph should pop out.
Adding strengths to relns made clusters emerge
Computer works with purely symbolized meaning
e.g. computer works with measured and interpreted pulse, not the pulse itself
Architecture of higher order level; relns between collections of complex adaptive systems; buddhists, taoists, etc. study that
p47 approach to psychosomatic
p48 quote
AH: bring together Rosen and Gendlin, using Greimas, Peirce, etc -- possibly quite possible.
SS mapping everything as continual domain of relationship and meaning
Consider John J. Kineman in relation to Rosen-Gendlin
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