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me
1:16 PM
Peirce triad exists at each corner of the Greimas square
AH: similarity between Greimas and Buhhdist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotic_square
http://information-roundabout.eu/articles/semiotic-triad/
Alexandra Hart
1:19 PM
Greimas
Gendlin
Mahayana Buddhism
MB - the generation of experience
me
1:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Gendlin
Alexandra Hart
1:20 PM
Gendlin - the generation and sybolisation of meaning from experience
me
1:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana_Buddhism
Alexandra Hart
1:21 PM
Greimas the symbolic systematisation of meaning and experience within semiotic systems
me
1:22 PM
So, the game, in terms of SolrSherlock and going forward, is to craft a machine reading agent which is capable of this advanced analysis.
Alexandra Hart
1:22 PM
By identifying the interconnections between MB-Gn-Gs we have a means of moving from sybolised semiotic expressions all the way back to the experiences that generated them.
me
1:22 PM
In theory, conceptual graphs might provide the substrate for that.
Alexandra Hart
1:23 PM
Conceptual graphs provide a means of illustrating the objects, relationships and complexity of these territiories.
me
1:29 PM
I might say "representing" the objects and relations; not sure how "complexity" is represented
Alexandra Hart
1:45 PM
signified - MB covers
me
1:45 PM
Extending CG to honor Square wires; AH phd does that.
Alexandra Hart
1:45 PM
signifier - generated from the signified through the meaning making process - Gendlin
Sign system - is semiotics - Greimas
dis-ease
me
1:47 PM
From Peirce: triad is Object, Sign, Interpretant
Alexandra Hart
1:47 PM
signified = dis-ease
me
1:47 PM
sig·ni·fied (s g n -f d ). n. Linguistics. The concept that a signifier denotes.
Alexandra Hart
1:48 PM
sign -directly accessible
me
1:48 PM
AH: do not have access to signified; just to sign
Alexandra Hart
1:48 PM
sign - have access to
If we have a means of working back from the sign to the signified we can access the signified
me
1:49 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretant
Alexandra Hart
1:49 PM
Greimas = taxonomy for signs
me
1:49 PM
An interpretant, in semiotics, is the effect of a sign on someone who reads or comprehends it
Alexandra Hart
1:50 PM
subject
object
narrative schema
temporality
spatiality
me
1:50 PM
AH: those are taxonomy of signs
Sets into which signs fall
Alexandra Hart
1:51 PM
temporality and spatiality
processes represented by signs - narrative schema
taxonomy - the branch of science concerned with classification, especially of organisms; systematics.
clasifying different kinds of signs
energy
me
2:04 PM
AH: SolrSherlock makes no assumptions: can measure strength of relns and not think about less important things; can generate systems of meanings from interview and match with literature.
AH: get from signs back to signified; in all necessary domains; all about human experience
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0253351693/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
http://www.focusing.org/gendlin/

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