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2013.02.10

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[11:32:45 AM] Jack Park: AH: saturation; after 20 interviews, not

hearing anything new -- a maximum point. When saturation, still did
30% more to double check saturation assumption. If something new, a
new marker point to keep interviewing.
[11:33:05 AM] Jack Park: JP: that's a topic map problem: merging
duplicate results.
[11:34:17 AM] Jack Park: AH: get computer to break down text to basic
aspects of meaning, and map relations among them; connect all of that
to related text. In theory, thesis was doing that. Need to scale that.
[11:35:58 AM] Jack Park: AH: iin theory, knowledge made up of
experience which is made of basic elements -- Buddhism; vastly more
sophisticated than what we have in a Western thinking; fundamental
components: subject, object, predicate -- create meaning out of units
of experience, then symbolize that meaning; from meaning to symbolic
expression.
[11:36:46 AM] Jack Park: AH: computer dealing with symbolized
language, not units of experience.
[11:38:19 AM] Jack Park: AH: how to find all the units of meaning in
symbolized form -> complete mapping of meanings in that symbolized
experience; it's doable. Have enough of the philosophy and technology
to get started. Sounds like IBM took a rough cut at it.
[11:41:17 AM] Jack Park: AH: need to get more sophisticated than just
symbol and probability space. Problem is that not all meaning has high
level of occurrence, but can still be significant; just doing stats,
just going to get most common expressions, not necessarily most
significant -- different between qual and quant research; some
meanings are highly qualitative, occur infrequently but still
important -- thesis coding process attempts to reveal that. Get
different results.
[11:53:05 AM] Jack Park: AH: semiotician has models of how action
occurs (her thesis) role players do actions; thesis is about how we
generate actions; must understand action as it is represented -
symbolized in language. aldeus gramus
[11:54:24 AM] Jack Park: AH: glossary in thesis
[11:57:07 AM] Jack Park: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algirdas_Julien_Greimas
[12:01:38 PM] Jack Park: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotic_square
[12:02:59 PM] Jack Park:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0253351693/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
[12:03:27 PM] Jack Park:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0810114275/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
[12:04:58 PM] Jack Park: semiotic square, thesis p 129
[12:25:51 PM] Jack Park: AH: if we can find an area of meaning that
has been symbolized to compare datasets, could be very interesting.
Would start to tell us about what a human being does and what the
probabilistic models are doing.
[12:27:58 PM] Jack Park: AH: train on body A marked text; test on body
B (marked) without using the marks, then compare how it did against
the marks.
[12:43:39 PM] Jack Park:
http://knowledgegardens.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/thoughts-after-playing-foresight-engine-games/
[12:44:42 PM] Jack Park: Jane McGonigal -- Reality is Broken
[12:51:29 PM] Jack Park: Badges for outlier game moves; in line with
AH's path not frequently taken;
[12:51:45 PM] Jack Park: AH: is it random, is it thoughtful?
[12:53:05 PM] Jack Park: AH: nature of relationship between novel idea
and domain
[12:59:59 PM] Jack Park: http://cohere.open.ac.uk/
[1:07:30 PM] Jack Park:
http://journals.isss.org/index.php/proceedings52nd/article/viewFile/1046/352
[1:08:38 PM] Jack Park: http://www.nexial.org/Life/complexity_v5.pdf
[1:08:57 PM] Jack Park:
http://www.nexial.org/Life/Kineman_Complexity_ISSS_WILL_2003b.pdf
[1:10:08 PM] Jack Park:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1461412684/ref=asc_df_14614126842384735?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt618513-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=1461412684
[1:11:34 PM] Jack Park: http://www.anteinstitute.org/
[1:13:17 PM] Jack Park: http://www.anticipation.info/
[1:14:32 PM] Jack Park: AH: need to build Wheel of Karma into SolrDrWatson
[1:18:25 PM] Dr Alexandra Hart: AH: need to make this Wheel of Karma
self aware of it's intentions! WHat would this do? Create and
enligtened being? WHat are the ethics heres
[1:19:44 PM] Dr Alexandra Hart: Anticipatory systems are systems with
intentions. The wheel of karma is a model for psychological causality
and it shows that maintains an organisms state and pathway is its
intentions.
[1:21:29 PM] Jack Park: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Rashevsky
[1:29:08 PM] Jack Park: AH: make wheel of karma aware of its intentions
[1:46:49 PM] Jack Park: http://debategraph.org/JA

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